Sunday, October 31, 2010

Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

There are a few reasons that fics disappear

1) the author loses interest

2) the author is planning on publishing it or another version of the story (same plots different characters)

3) they find people are posting their works with out permission on databases or other sites (had an author recently delete a story for this)

4) there is a group that is out there purposefully going and reporting stories on ff.net for the M rated items and getting them deleted.

I have also recently found that is seems a very well like and known author in the ff world faked her death in order to get out of writing. Now there is no proof of this, except that her fb page is still active.

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From: Ava Gurley <girleygirl251@yahoo.com>
To: BellaAndEdward@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 31, 2010 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories



I sure do not see a reason to get mad and flame an author.  It is better to just move on if you don't like it.  
 
I read one author whose first story was very poorly written, but it had heart and a plot.  She started a second story that was written much better, and had a good storyline, but she went back to school. So, she kind of stopped writing.  Don't know when she will be back. 
 
Peggy Prolific, I don't think I have read your work, got any links. 


From: mary davidson <mary.davidson@sympatico.ca>
To: BellaAndEdward@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 6:10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

Yeah, there are a lot of reasons why they do that---which is why I try to stay away from WIP. If I'm invested in a story, like you, I want to know how it ends too. In can be RL problems, like you say. Or maybe they just can't figure an ending for it---or get bored with the story. Or they're going to go professional and take it down. Or they don't get enough feedback and figure nobody is reading it. This is why sites with viewing stats are good. Heck, somebody can flame the story and they feel so hurt, they take it down. I don't care for flamers at all. A constructive critique is okay---and best done offlist or offsite. But flamers can destroy the fanfic writer so badly that they might not write another word. Prolific Peggy.
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From: Ava Gurley
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 
I know they need the feedback, but I can tell you that I have seen a lot of authors quit writing their stories, that I loved to read, and now are just gone.  I understand that they are having some real life problems, but I just really want to know how it all ends.   I wait for months and months for updates, and I stick with them, but now, I am all for the finished works.  I will rarely start a WIP.   





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Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 



 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ava Gurley
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

I sure do not see a reason to get mad and flame an author.  It is better to just move on if you don't like it.    >
 
I think sometimes a reader does this because they read another pairing. Maybe it's so good they are disgusted---or maybe they are trying to get the writer to write theirs. I know a friend got one and she was a little pissed until I told her, sound's like it's not the person's pairing. That is just as bad as a writer writing a pairing that doesn't sing to them. It doesn't work either and makes the characters seem so much further out of character that you don't like them. For example---I read this X-Files piece where at the end, Mulder did something so far out of left field, I knew the author was an MSR writer---and not an SSR writer. For the record, when an author is flammed for the reasons above, it just doesn't work---changing our minds that is---so, it's just a lot of hot air that vanishes. But it's always good to have a friend to come along and say, who cares---10 people love it---if it doesn't vanish like hot air.
 
I read one author whose first story was very poorly written, but it had heart and a plot.  She started a second story that was written much better, and had a good storyline, but she went back to school. So, she kind of stopped writing.  Don't know when she will be back. >
 
I count my X-files days as preparing me to be a fanfic writer. I cringe at some of the stuff I read---but it was a learning experience---and Smallville got the benefit of it. : ) What I don't like in stories is when they get spelling errors all over the place. Now, if English is your second language, that's understandable---but if it's a first language---I'm gone pretty fast. Hopefully she'll be back, sweetie. : )  
 
Peggy Prolific, I don't think I have read your work, got any links.  >
 
I've got two stories I'm working on for Twilight---one is Jake and Nessie---the other is Seth and an original character. I do have a couple of poems on this list, I believe. Most of my other stuff is Smallville. If you are over 18, you can join Naughty seduction - chlex. Put that into the search engine---trust me---you can run into some stuff you don't want to with the Chlex there. :: sigh :: Or I can send you some stuff---e-mail me offline. : ) Thanks for asking. : ) Prolific Peggy.

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Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

I sure do not see a reason to get mad and flame an author.  It is better to just move on if you don't like it.  
 
I read one author whose first story was very poorly written, but it had heart and a plot.  She started a second story that was written much better, and had a good storyline, but she went back to school. So, she kind of stopped writing.  Don't know when she will be back. 
 
Peggy Prolific, I don't think I have read your work, got any links. 


From: mary davidson <mary.davidson@sympatico.ca>
To: BellaAndEdward@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 6:10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 



Yeah, there are a lot of reasons why they do that---which is why I try to stay away from WIP. If I'm invested in a story, like you, I want to know how it ends too. In can be RL problems, like you say. Or maybe they just can't figure an ending for it---or get bored with the story. Or they're going to go professional and take it down. Or they don't get enough feedback and figure nobody is reading it. This is why sites with viewing stats are good. Heck, somebody can flame the story and they feel so hurt, they take it down. I don't care for flamers at all. A constructive critique is okay---and best done offlist or offsite. But flamers can destroy the fanfic writer so badly that they might not write another word. Prolific Peggy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ava Gurley
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

I know they need the feedback, but I can tell you that I have seen a lot of authors quit writing their stories, that I loved to read, and now are just gone.  I understand that they are having some real life problems, but I just really want to know how it all ends.   I wait for months and months for updates, and I stick with them, but now, I am all for the finished works.  I will rarely start a WIP.   



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Saturday, October 30, 2010

Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 



That's good then. The other's your not so sure about---best to wait till it's finished, I guess. Prolific Peggy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ava Gurley
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

There are some authors you can trust to finish their stories as long as they are alive and breathing on their own.  Others, not so much.

 

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Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 



Yeah, there are a lot of reasons why they do that---which is why I try to stay away from WIP. If I'm invested in a story, like you, I want to know how it ends too. In can be RL problems, like you say. Or maybe they just can't figure an ending for it---or get bored with the story. Or they're going to go professional and take it down. Or they don't get enough feedback and figure nobody is reading it. This is why sites with viewing stats are good. Heck, somebody can flame the story and they feel so hurt, they take it down. I don't care for flamers at all. A constructive critique is okay---and best done offlist or offsite. But flamers can destroy the fanfic writer so badly that they might not write another word. Prolific Peggy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ava Gurley
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

I know they need the feedback, but I can tell you that I have seen a lot of authors quit writing their stories, that I loved to read, and now are just gone.  I understand that they are having some real life problems, but I just really want to know how it all ends.   I wait for months and months for updates, and I stick with them, but now, I am all for the finished works.  I will rarely start a WIP.   


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Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

There are some authors you can trust to finish their stories as long as they are alive and breathing on their own.  Others, not so much.


From: mary davidson <mary.davidson@sympatico.ca>
To: BellaAndEdward@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 10:18:27 PM
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 



I used to read WIP for the X-Files but I ran into some that never got finished, that I felt let down. Now there are WIP in the Smallville fics----but they try their best to finish it---even if it takes a while. That said, on a Chlex site I'm on, they do have a graveyard for fanfics that are never finished. I guess all fandoms have them. I guess that's why I write short fanfics---I don't want to disappoint anybody. That and my muse won't allow it---she wants her happy ending fast and furious. : ) Prolific Peggy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ava Gurley
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 


Some works just need to be read in installments because they are more fun.  But when they are not finished it is so heartbreaking.   I hate trying to make up my own endings.  I read very few WIPs. 


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Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

I know they need the feedback, but I can tell you that I have seen a lot of authors quit writing their stories, that I loved to read, and now are just gone.  I understand that they are having some real life problems, but I just really want to know how it all ends.   I wait for months and months for updates, and I stick with them, but now, I am all for the finished works.  I will rarely start a WIP.   


From: mary davidson <mary.davidson@sympatico.ca>
To: BellaAndEdward@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 10:24:42 PM
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 



That's the thing---the authors sometimes needs that feedback to carry on. Especially if they are newbies. I've been writing fanfic for at least 10 years---maybe more. And the one thing a newbie or any fanfic writer has to know---just because you aren't getting feedback doesn't mean it's not being read. Sometimes you just don't have the time for feedback. Which is why I love the sites where it tells you how many views your piece has gotten.
 
That said, this is why I say---find the time to send feedback, on or off the list. And if you run into a newbie who is discouraged, tell them, it takes time. Remember one thing---you are writing for yourself and if somebody else acknowledges it, that's the icing on the cake. And also remember---quality over quantity. Better one glowing feedback then 5 so-so ones. : ) Prolific Peggy.
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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:27 AM
Subject: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

I'm trying to ween myself off of reading work-in-progress stories, but it's harder to do than I thought.  Part of me feels bad for doing that because authors sometimes will want the feedback as they go, to help them.



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Friday, October 29, 2010

Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 



That's the thing---the authors sometimes needs that feedback to carry on. Especially if they are newbies. I've been writing fanfic for at least 10 years---maybe more. And the one thing a newbie or any fanfic writer has to know---just because you aren't getting feedback doesn't mean it's not being read. Sometimes you just don't have the time for feedback. Which is why I love the sites where it tells you how many views your piece has gotten.
 
That said, this is why I say---find the time to send feedback, on or off the list. And if you run into a newbie who is discouraged, tell them, it takes time. Remember one thing---you are writing for yourself and if somebody else acknowledges it, that's the icing on the cake. And also remember---quality over quantity. Better one glowing feedback then 5 so-so ones. : ) Prolific Peggy.
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Subject: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

I'm trying to ween myself off of reading work-in-progress stories, but it's harder to do than I thought.  Part of me feels bad for doing that because authors sometimes will want the feedback as they go, to help them.


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I used to read WIP for the X-Files but I ran into some that never got finished, that I felt let down. Now there are WIP in the Smallville fics----but they try their best to finish it---even if it takes a while. That said, on a Chlex site I'm on, they do have a graveyard for fanfics that are never finished. I guess all fandoms have them. I guess that's why I write short fanfics---I don't want to disappoint anybody. That and my muse won't allow it---she wants her happy ending fast and furious. : ) Prolific Peggy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ava Gurley
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 


Some works just need to be read in installments because they are more fun.  But when they are not finished it is so heartbreaking.   I hate trying to make up my own endings.  I read very few WIPs. 

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Re: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 


Some works just need to be read in installments because they are more fun.  But when they are not finished it is so heartbreaking.   I hate trying to make up my own endings.  I read very few WIPs. 

From: Brandee (RingTheBella) <ringthebella@vyanet.com>
To: BellaAndEdward@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 12:27:56 PM
Subject: [BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

I'm trying to ween myself off of reading work-in-progress stories, but it's harder to do than I thought.  Part of me feels bad for doing that because authors sometimes will want the feedback as they go, to help them.


----- Original Message -----
From: mary davidson [mailto:mary.davidson@sympatico.ca]
To: BellaAndEdward@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:16:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] Fanfic author "ebalways"



So sorry you didn't get to do that, sweetie. : ( This is why I don't do WIP anymore when I do get to read. It's the same in all fandoms---some pieces don't get finished for whatever reason is out there. : ( Prolific Peggy.





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[BellaAndEdward] reading WIP or completed stories

 

I'm trying to ween myself off of reading work-in-progress stories, but it's harder to do than I thought.  Part of me feels bad for doing that because authors sometimes will want the feedback as they go, to help them.


----- Original Message -----
From: mary davidson [mailto:mary.davidson@sympatico.ca]
To: BellaAndEdward@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:16:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [BellaAndEdward] Fanfic author "ebalways"



So sorry you didn't get to do that, sweetie. : ( This is why I don't do WIP anymore when I do get to read. It's the same in all fandoms---some pieces don't get finished for whatever reason is out there. : ( Prolific Peggy.





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